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Wood
Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:52 pm Reply with quote
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The Unattainable

While being friends is def the last thing you want to do with a TOI, its also a good way to build attraction through the backdoor. Lets say shes dating some other guy or shes a bartender whos Value obvi is different from other women. She could even know about your game etc. This is where you work at chipping away her defenses. You can do this by raising your value in her eyes and making it clear you dont want to game her. So basically you game women in front of her. You make fun of how you treat some women and you do jerk things and laugh together about it. You talk to her about your own adventures while explicity stating shes a good friend. You even listen to her own stories and if you have to fake real genuine interest in the things she says. You make it understood that you have no attraction at all with her though. In the meantime, you throw constant aggressive kino her way. Find any excuse for it and act on it more so than you would with a normal target you are gaming. All of this together will confuse the shit out of her. Maybe one night of drinks is all it takes for her to jump on you or for you to make a move. You are basically providing a comfort zone for her while also showing how awesome you are while being completely 'unattainable'. Now instead of her being out of reach, you take her power and you yourself are out of reach.

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Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:26 am Reply with quote
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NEGS 101

I am a firm believer that negs and DHV should be relatively unrehearsed.

Also, , do not insult the girl. Most women, believe it or not, are relatively insecure. If you insult them they are going to automatically associate you with having a negative connotation.

Just like text game, you want to throw that smiley face into the text conversation when you want her to know that you are teasing. In real life, do the same thing. Throw a cute smirk or laugh to let her know that you are only teasing. Don't give into her little pouty face bullshit either. Sometimes when you are teasing a girl they will throw a shit test at you; they want to know how confident you are. For instance, if you throw a neg at a girl, and she turns all bratty like you hurt her feelings, don't give in. The worst thing you can do is be like, "Ooooooh I'm sorry, I didn't mean it, I'm only joking, come on cheer up, I'll buy you a drink". If you said this after a neg you have affectively lost whatever value you had gained for yourself. Negging all together should really only be done in the early stages of attraction. If you prolong the negging you will never effectively make that jump to sexual tension. There is a idfference between teasing and negging. Teasing is a mutual thing that goes hand in hand with flirting. Negging is a way for you to prove to a girl right off the bat that you are different from all the other guys out there. You are proving you are different because you aren't treating her like she's the most beautiful thing ever, and that's different.

For DHV, a good anecdote always puts it over the top. Tell a good story that talks about women in your life, loyalty to friends, outlandish adventures, etc. Pretty much anything to show her that you are likable and valuable. Try to think of a real story if you can.

Just be natural though, I know all this PUA stuff seems like a science, but it's really just natural. The most unnatural thing is opening, but once you are knee deep in conversation things tak care of themselves. Just don't forget to move locations, and Kino escalate and you will be fine.

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LOW CONFIDENCE

You should also start to think of IOI's as nothing more than tools that you use to judge your progress in-set, not something to judge yourself based on. If you aren't getting them while you are just walking down the street, it doesn't mean you've lost your game or that you are ugly... it just means that you didn't happen to get any IOI's.

Just like an AFC can have a lucky streak and get a bunch of IOI's off pure luck... the opposite can happen to a seasoned PUA and you can get in a slump for no apparent reason other than bad luck.

Some people call it karma, some say it's the alignment of the planets in relation to your zodiac sign, others call it mere coincidence... I just call it the way that the world works, and something we may never be able to fully explain.

You don't need a happy pill or to sit down on a couch answering questions from a shrink, and you don't need to change anything about your life. You just need to recognize that you are living a life that will be full of highs and lows, and that if you are currently at a low... you're about to be on your way back up.

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The Rejection Grid-Iron

Ok, that thing you ran through during football practice in High School? I think it was called the Grid Iron. Anyway, picture that. Its supposed to stop you and hinder your progress but in the long run it just makes you barge through your future obstacles.

So go on a dating site. Plentyoffish, Craigs, Match, Facebook, whatever and just try out new openers. Fail. Try out funny openers. Fail. Try out creepy stuff that will make you laugh. Fail. Bottomline, get rejected as much as possible. Then go out.

I find that when I do this at work, I get so annoyed by how stupid so many girls are and how much of a joke it is that when I go out I look at women and then truly cut all the bull shit out. I see them as profiles and its as if Im just scrolling through them to see which one I want. Cute way there to tackle AA from another approach.

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Learning Vs Imitating

This is the most important aspect of improving your game. We have all, at some point in our lives, imitated someone who we strived to be like. Its only natural. We want to be like them so we do thing and say things we perceive as effective or cool.

This isnt all that wrong, but when most people start out they tend to just ask specific questions. They ask, what should I say here? What should I do here? They need a response for every action or situation. This too is something we all experience at some point. This is also a very bad way to go about learning.

When you do this, its merely imitating and copying. When you do this, you might yeild results but youll show no progress. This is very dangerous and will regress your game. The point is you need to learn on your own. You need to stop yourself from imitating others and create your own personality and your own version of the game. If you dont, youll never be the PUA you strive to be.

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One of the biggest things afc's do that women (and nonafc men) can really pick up on is agreeing for the sake of agreeing. Have your own opinions, and if you see that just so happen to genuinely agree with 5 things in a row, don't let it be known that you agree on those 5 things. It'll make you seem needy as shit. AFC's don't just do this to girls, they do it to alpha males, or anyone who they value more than themselves or anyone they think is cool. You might as well kill yourself if you have nothing to bring to the table, no one wants someone with no input.

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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:58 pm Reply with quote
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Me too

Picked this up from DD. Going to develope what Papi said. Of course its AFC to just keep agreeing with a chick. You have to tease her about stuff she likes and create tension which leads to attraction. But your goal is to create a rapport. You do this by saying stuff like me too. Not necessarily agreeing but providing a connection instead. You should be saying me too as much as you can, you just shouldnt make a big deal out of it every single time. You should say things like me too, but make it casual and move the conversation along.

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The contest is officially over.

Congratulations Wood, you are the winner. You made a ton of great contributions. P87 came in a close second, and will receive 10k rep as a second place prize.

Wood will receive 42,000.

Good job guys.

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Wood
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:32 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks alot TP means alot. I had fun doing those also. I thought the contest was for a month, didnt realize it ended today. I look foward to writing more tips like this in the baby steps etc.

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Nice job Wood!

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Wow, Wood won? What a surprise! Rolling Eyes
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Wood wrote:
Thanks alot TP means alot. I had fun doing those also. I thought the contest was for a month, didnt realize it ended today. I look foward to writing more tips like this in the baby steps etc.


You can keep posting them if you want to share with everyone, and I'll post any new ones you write on BAP too.

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Nice dude. No wonder I got some Rep from you out of nowhere.
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Congrats Wood!

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